The Low Flyers (imported from old NSRA forum)

[IanT]

Here's the historically important Low Flyers thread, imported from the 'old' NSRA forum. All originally posted May/June 2007.

I've pulled in all the posts and images, except where some of the original image links no longer work.

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hotroddeuce:
Has anyone got a picture that they can post on here, taken of the club at Bruntingthorpe.It is the one with all the cars parked in an arc.I think Kev is nearest the camera in his A if I remember correctly.
If anyone has any pics at all of the Low Flyers ..post `em up....they made a real impact on me, and I guess a lot of others, it would be good to see them again.
Maybe with all the "old barn finds" surfacing in the US and getting restored(!?)there could be some old `Flyers cars tucked up awaiting rebirth.
Is the club/group, still in any form whatsoever, even one last survivor still wearing his colours/plaque.
A major part of British Hot Rod history, we should give it some airtime on here.
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crusty:
I know for a fact that Kev Elliot has that very picture on his dinning room wall, so give it 8 hours and he may read this post and do the honours.
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JapChris:
This is the article Street Rodder used that caused a bit of controversey and "the growing 1%" saying.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers1a.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers1b.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers7.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers4.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers3.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers5.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers2.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers6.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/lowflyers8.jpg
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hotroddeuce:
I loved the Pierson looking 34 coupe...is it still out there....?
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KoppaK:
Was owned by Mark Wilde down in Cornwall, Nick Prophet? knows him.
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KoppaK:
I got a Low Flyers car for a future resto, gonna need a fuggin plaque from somewhere though.
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hotroddeuce:
which one have you got, John?
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Russ:
wasn`t Robert Williams a founder member of the low flyers.
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hotroddeuce:
Russ, lets keep him out of this...it`s a home gig. lol
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JapChris:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/bruntingthorpe.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0034.jpg

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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0038.jpg

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JapChris:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0040.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0041.jpg
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hotroddeuce:
Chris, thats excellant.Are these personal photos?When you look at these cars and remember it was 20 years ago.....class never goes out of style.
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JapChris:
Yeah, they were taken around '87-88. (Feel old now!)
Keep `em coming folks.
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Kapri:
I remember the line up of blue /white cars well. The Lowflyers had snuck out early before the cruise around Hayling , parked up down by the Lifeboat Inn and repainted them all !

I've been led to believe that I have the remains of one of the B roadster bodies in that photo in my garage at the mo.
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JapChris:
Though obviously not a Low Flyer, this car was one that did it for me - Simon Manhire's Merc - now in Scandinavia. Notice the Spirit of the 50's Club sticker.
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Crusty:
One of my mates owns one of the low flyers cars at the moment, a 27T it's had all sort's of engines in it in it's life, at the moment though its got a pinto, soon to have a rover if the bloke doing it gets his finger out. Oh it's also got the Low Flyers club plaque still on the rear pan.
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surfmonkey:
this was the article in an old custom car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/surfmonkey/lowflyers.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/surfmonkey/lowflyers1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/surfmonkey/lowflyers2.jpg

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gettinonabitmore:
[which one have you got ,John?]

I know, but I am sworn to secrecy...
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Koppak:
I've recently picked this up

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8812/lowflyers4ck1.jpg

It doesn't look so good now though

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8481/atlantic056ni3.jpghttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/ashamed_125.gif
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geow:
I have such a plaque, which i will part with for a good cause... i'm offshore at the moment and not sure if the plaque is at home in spain or in storage in scotland but if you still need one i'll check in a couple of weeks.
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Koppak:
Very interested George, I'm collecting parts for it at the moment so when I do get to it I can blitz it. Let me know how much you want for it. John

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timetravel:
Here's a selection of pics from '86-'88....... http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF001.jpg

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crusty:
Yeah last but one, thats the T that my mate now owns , all be it's got a faded gloss black paint job and the wishbones have been relocated running a pinto. He brought it off a guy in Scotland who's brother owned it but passed away so wanted rid.
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WagonMan:
The one above that (I think it's that one anyway) is currently a pile of parts awaiting a rebuild back to its former glory.
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banger:
Best thread in absolutely ages, it's fantastic to see pictures of the cars that have so obviously influenced so many people over the years, myself included. I have just been through my photo pile and I am amazed at how few pictures I took of the Low Flyers cars despite what they meant to me. I do however have a few of the 23T (ARU357A & ALJ198A, (two differnt reg no's, I wonder how that happened!)) as I owned it for around 9 years from 1989 to 1998. It's now back in the hands of its original owner Jensen Smee and runs a Rover instead of the 289 Ford. It's hard to believe this was all going on over 20 years ago.
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Klunk:
[Yeah last but one, thats the T that my mate now owns ,]

Thought that looked familiar!! LOL
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Koppak:
I always wanted that T, I remember someone nailing that thing along the Sea Front at Hayling. Jeese it took off like a missile.
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Geow:
[Very interested George, I'm collecting parts for it at the moment so when I do get to it I can blitz it. Let me know how much you want for it. John]

it'll be free to the right home... build the car right and its yours
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Koppak:
Wow thanks, don't hold your breath though, I've got some stuff to finish first

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hightri55:
i used to own the burgundy 27 t in about 91 it was gloss black then all over
i referbed it i rebuilt the top end of the tired 283 putting a performer cam
and inlet and a pair of power pack heads.and various other bits.
and it went like stink ill try and dig out some pics of it.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/55gasser/27t3.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/55gasser/27t2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/55gasser/27t.jpg

heres the t after i sorted it out ithink it was 92 or 93 when i got moaned at
for slinging mud about with the bristol boys at hayling. the good ole days.
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Austin10:
Kenny Brookes had a Low Flyers logo painted on the back of Roaring Rat
about 12 years ago. Before it went to Spain. Don't know if it is still there.
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KoppaK:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7876/post143920wwct007nf3.jpg

Not sure if Ken Brooks Low Life ever wore a plaque

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4208/srythsreg4.jpg

Who else has got pics, I'm sure Lancelot Link and Kev Elliot have, post em up fellas
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Koops:
Here's my batch o' booty.....

[pictures missing]

I've some more pix buried deep in me Mac, somewhere an' some just 35mm negs
(Remember them?) :p

Does anyone remember the Custom Car fashion piece that had Clive's then roadster featured?
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Koppak:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4075/lowflyers5nk6.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4146/lowflyers3gj7.jpg

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KoppaK:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6901/evenmoreoldstuff048viaq9.jpg

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1416/evenmoreoldstuff014vigi5.jpg
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Koops:
Hell! Mr. Elliot is missin' an opportunity not publishin' a book dedicated to these bunch o' reprobates! : )
p.s. Thanx chaps for some swell pix!
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Hotrod Rod:
That looks like Elmers 27' and Jerry Dennings early (first 32' roadster) I think at Hayling on the beach front,
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Skimmer:
John thats gotta be the understatement of the week "Some stuff to finish"......But youll get it done.....Is it Chop Chop time yet ??

All these pics........Where do all the years go ??.....it all only seems like yesterday ..
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hotroddickie:
How many of these cars are still together?
My roadster Kev Elliotts old A has hardly been off the road since around 87, apart from blowing the motor in the meltdown last year it has been very reliable in the 7 year I have had it. Attesting to the difference between "nostalgia rods and so called rat rods"
As a youngster who was heavily influenced by the Flyers in the early days it has been a fantastic experience to be a keeper of a car like this. I know Kenny Brookes B is still around and may be out at the Hayride, Jensen's T was back on the road a couple of years ago and I think Clives old roadster lives on, on the continent.
The others?
These cars were on the road before the Shifters/Choppers et al were out of high school and deserve a place in the history books

Rich
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surfmonkey:
to give credit where credits due Aaron Kahan of the choppers said somewhere along the line that it was the low flyers who sparked off the resurgence in the traditional hotrodding....just a pity he forgot to tell his uncle about that
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artiboy69:
Jimmy White has acknowledged the Low Flyers on the HAMB today. Seems to know his history.
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2734:
i do know that john blackmore still has both his roadster and his 3 window.
two of gary janes's sleds are still on the road(looking a little different)
jenson still has his t
i think mike still has his 32 roadster (in bits)
i did see cookies merc a few years ago.
but the others not mentioned so far i have no idea !

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KoppaK:
Garys brown Carson topped Chevy still lived a few years back, was owned by a French guy and was adorned with fangs and blood

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9016/wyhwyhwhwln0.jpg

Low Life has just re-appeared as well though as I mentioned before I'm not sure it ever wore a plaque

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3186/95815818oz4.jpg
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kapri:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182016 (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182016)
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KoppaK:
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6175/evenmoreoldstuff005virm9.jpg
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Ratty:
This is the best thread on here for ages , thanks so much for sharing all the pic's and memories guy's , keep 'em coming ;-)
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Lord Purple of Binfield:
Just checked the link to the HAMB, apart from Jimmy White, the Americans are keeping very quiet on that thread!
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Spence32:
I have to agree, this is the best thread I have ever read on this forum.

Furthermore someone should write a book about this as it really was down to the Low Flyers and the Vultures that the Worldwide nostalgia rod scene is what it is today

Keep this one going!
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JapChris:
I also think Jerry Desvaux of Rolls and Pleats with the old Continental Restyling magazine deserves some credit for spreading info (even if it was a bit dubious) about the UK's interest in old timey rods to other far flung corners of the globe via 'foreign' visitors to Hemsby, etc. I believe he sent a copy to Street Rodder that got some (negative) editorial space.
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Battersea Boys:
There has always been the old style hot rods in the states, It is the low flyer movement that took it back to the dress/music look that really changed rodding worldwide Hemsby helped but there has always been car people and music dress people sometimes they never colide, The hayride meet which I haven,t been to yet, seems to be the envelope push that is encompassing the three. American throw back rodders are still slightly straycat although that is how the"scene" has evolved nothing wrong with that but it,s the modern take of rodstalgia you know tats and turn ups. However none of any of it is a bad thing..
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timetravel:
Here's some more Low Flyers from the NASC Nats at Avon Park 1989....
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF019.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF020.jpg

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Koops:
Not all my pix, I pick 'em up offa the net, but here's mo' Flyers & Vultures. They were mainly shot at Hemsby around '89/'90.
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surfmonkey:
I`d certainly buy a book about this..after all its an important part of UK hotrodding history.....Lord P...your one of them journalist type fellershttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/icon_smile_big.gif
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artiboy69:
Or at least a dedicated website.....eh, Neil?
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Koops:
Oh yeah! Just so you know. 'Time Travel Videos/DVDs' have/had DVDs for sale of the '88 Bruntingthorpe Nats (@£10.00 each) in which several of the Flyers cars feature. #37 in the series is the one to ask for. It's all 'home cine' quality, but well worth a watch. I believe Nick Pettitt is the man behind the operation. I can pass on his number/address to interested parties, but don't want to publish details on the board.
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monkeybiker:
I'm seeing at least one Sidewinders car here...

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF020.jpg
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hightri55:
the pics of the 27T alj541a were after i owned it because it was me that moved the track control rod to behind the axle cos it steered like crap dragging one wheel especialy when reversing.i remember having to heat and bend the steering arms down to clear the wish bones. did anyone notice it has odd spindles ones a 37/40 round style the other 42 onwards i was told that some of the parts on the rod came off john bonham of led zepplins car i know a lot of the front end was chromed but it just got painted over .does anyone have info on the latter. where is the car now.ps is the 32 roadster reg no ug? blobbys old one who emigrated.
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rottencorsair:
Maybe slightly off topic but it was about this period. My dad took me to my first ever Supernationals
about 89/90. We didnt know about public day so my dad paid for a weekend ticket so we could get in on
the saturday. Any hoo I can remember somone turning up with an all white stripped down T or A (I cant
remember which as I was 10 or 11) It was on a trailer they unloaded it and were driving around the place.
It was the coolest thing I had ever seen. Can anyone think whos car I saw or what it was or even better
picks.
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timetravel:
[Oh yeah! Just so you know. 'Time Travel Videos/DVDs' have/had DVDs for sale of the '88 Bruntingthorpe Nats (@£10.00 each) in which several of the Flyers cars feature. #37 in the series is the one to ask for. It's all 'home cine' quality, but well worth a watch. I believe Nick Pettitt is the man behind the operation. I can pass on his number/address to interested parties, but don't want to publish details on the board.]

Yes that's me and you can find details on here http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/page3.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/page3.html)
as Koops says #37 has the most Low Flyer footage but there's also some on #38 from the '89 Nat's
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crusty:
[the pics of the 27T alj541a were after i owned it ....]

This is the 27 that my mate Stu owns at the mo, like I said earlier its waiting for an engine transplant (pinto to rover) Its up here in Liecester at the moment but Stu lives down Chatham way, He's one of the original members of the Throttlers.
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timetravel:
Could this be the car? It was at Bruntingthorpe 1987
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/t.jpg

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rottencorsair:
Looks like a hell of alot of fun. But no it was more like a stripped down stocker. It was more like a low flyers type of jalopy. But thanks for trying.
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Japchris:
I remember there was a white stocker looking T at Knebworth one year being driven by the big fella that had the purple helmets flathead rail.
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rottencorsair:
Could be it. Just wondered what happened to it like a lot of these cars I never saw in the flesh only in Street Machine and pinned to my bedroom wall. Then when I was old enough to transport myself to shows they'd all disapeared. That one stuck in my mind from the very first show I went to.
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Koops:
Just a pick of some of Nick's stuff. Low Flyers related-ish. Take some time to check out his selection of pix. Awesome stuff!http://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/thumbup_125.gif

http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201983/target40.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201983/target40.html) -- OLY52 (Great plate number)
http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201981/target46.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201981/target46.html)
http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201981/target47.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201981/target47.html)
http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/OLYMPIA%20NOV%20'81/target7.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/OLYMPIA%20NOV%20'81/target7.html)
http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201982/target45.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201982/target45.html)
http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201982/target46.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201982/target46.html)
http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201981/target18.html (http://www.timetraveldvds.co.uk/gallery/THRUXTON%201981/target18.html) - '47 Ford 'Cab'
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Flat Ernie:
[Just checked the link to the HAMB, apart from Jimmy White, the Americans are keeping very quiet on that thread!]

I honestly doubt most knew about what was going on over there...I know I certainly didn't...
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monkeybiker:
Well - I have no pics, but it was Jensen's - after he'd sold his T. Think it was an A chassis with quite an early T or maybe a Dodge body? Lots of wood in it anyway! Got dubbed "the Angel" by maybe Dave Loder...
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Lord Purple of Binfield:
[i`d certainly buy a book about this..after all its an important part of UK hotrodding history.....Lord P...your one of them journalist type fellershttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/icon_smile_big.gif
Monkey]

It would be an interesting project Monkey, but I would definitely defer to Mr Elliott on this one as he was actually part of the scene at the time, getting him to write a second book would be the challenge! Maybe when he's retired he'll write his memoirs...
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rottencorsair:
Cheers monkey biker maybe someone will remember they have picks of it.
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31 hillard:
i agree this is definatly the best thread on here in a while.

i have seen some pics of the low flyers cars before but some of them are amazing,i really like the pierson bro's style coupe,but who wouldnt?

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monkeybiker:
Here's a few I have from days gone by - must search out the dusty old packets of pics and scan some more...
The day the winds blew on Essex showground and the main marquee blew away:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/hotrodfil/sidewinders/essex-hot-rods.jpg

Hayling Billy for a fond farewell pint:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/hotrodfil/sidewinders/hotrods-at-Hayling.jpg

And a drag race at Hemsby staged for some foreign film crew. Seem to recall they wanted a rolling shot after this and instead we just all rolled back to the bar...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/hotrodfil/sidewinders/hemsby-drag-race.jpg
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kevelliott:
This thread is great but is gonna get awfully confusing to those who don't know which are and which aren't Low Flyers cars, as many of the pics now posted are far too recent. The pic of the cars at Bruntingthorpe in an arc was taken by Colin Burnham, and is my all-time favourite pic, though I see Chris Ranstead has a shot of the same photoshoot, taken from the ground (Colin was up a stepladder)

As for a Low Flyers book, I'd love to do it, but as LP knows, it's a HUGE amount of work for very little return (oh and Keith, it'd be my third book!), and I personally don't have many pics from back then (too busy driving!)Plus the market would be so small no publisher would commission it. I'd have to pay to publish what would be a true labour of love. Now if people were to donate pics...

Aaron Kahan was tackling a similar project here in Ca (I'll have to ask him what happened to it) and assured me the Low Flyers would get appropriate credit. He and Jimmy White know their history.

As an aside, I never realised so many people had pics of the Flyers! I've enjoyed reading this thread, and seeing how young we all were, immensely.
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Banger:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF020.jpg
Why it's Kerry's old T that with a bit of parting out became Tony Cardy's 13 second Flathead Meltdown winning car. Good to see it in its original guise.

Behind it is Kid Gloves Pilot Pickup that was featured in Street Machine.
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timetravel:
Must be this one then?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF029.jpg
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Banger:
I was going to say that's the T that Jensen put together but that doesn't look like a Ford body, it's certainly the right car though. Great to see it again.
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hotroddeuce:
I never guessed this post would generate so much good input. It`s a real blast down memory lane.It ties in with a post by SantaFe Bri a while back about the early BHRA with some real good pictures and stories.....all good early trad HotRod stuff....seems like we got ourselves some History.

Kev...the "arc" photo is a real favourite of mine and I was asking for a copy of it on here to try and have as my screen saver....if anyone can do the business with the pictures on here to try and make it a full page image, I`d be mighty grateful.
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kevelliott:
hotroddeuce

This is where you get into the grey area of photo copyright. Colin Burnham owns that image and every time it's used in magazines etc, he gets paid for it. He knows he has the only one too, and charges way more than the normal 'one picture' rate to use it, or at least did when I was at CC. It's a damn cool pic
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Banger:
Here are some poor scans, dates are sketchy, so is the information! All Low Flyer related in some form or another. I cannot believe that I haven't got any photos from earlier, from both the Nationals and the Ape Escape. Keep sharing people!

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc25e28d400000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Jensen's T as it looked under my ownership around 1990.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc25028da00000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Taken at the Nationals in 89 at Avon Park.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc25fa9e500000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Taken at Slyfield Green around 1990? I don't know if this was a Low Flyers car, anyone know?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc26a28e000000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Slyfield again, same year as above.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc25228d800000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Slyfield 1990 again.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc269a9d300000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
And Slyfield again. Here's some of those basic flames you like Chris!

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc25a28d000000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
The Nationals in 92, a rare picture of a VHRA T shirt with no marquee filth on it!

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc24628cc00000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
The Nat's again in 92, Dave Loder's PU, It'd be great to know if this one is still about.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc26228e800000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Look closely, you'll see a Low Flyers Plaque on this stock 24 Doctors Coupe. This photo was taken at Dave Loder's house.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc26ba9d100000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
Same body as above but now on an A chassis courtesy of me, this was at the first Supernat's at Knebworth. The chassis now resides under my Sport Coupe.

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daisyduke:
Here's a few pics i have

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/kelvindunn/Beckys/scan0002.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/kelvindunn/Beckys/scan0001.jpg

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kevelliott:
The red coupe is Clive's. He used to swap roadster and coupe bodies - even went home from the Chelsea cruise once and returned with the other body! - and this is when he ran it full fendered for a while.
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chetpop73:
neil, think you will find the full fendered 32 was clives old car, the 27t on the trailer was john the hippys that my brother bought then we crashed an hour later,that is my brother in front of kevs A with wockin wachel in the vhra t shirts

Hey kev how you doin, funny how two people in different countrys can come up with the same answer within 13 seconds of each other.
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timetravel:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db35b3127cce845cc25fa9e500000026108AcMmrdu5Ytb
[Taken at Slyfield Green around 1990? I don't know if this was a Low Flyers car, anyone know?]


I'm pretty sure that's the same car as this one which was the first Low Flyer I saw turning up at the 1986 Wheelsday and there's some more pics of it on here with a roadster body
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF030.jpg
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rottencorsair:
Time travel. Thankyou. I reckon that was it.I can see now its not ford but I was 10 last time I saw it. So good to see a picture of a car that has stayed with me for around 17 or so years.
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Banger:
I should have recognised it as Clives car from the number plate, it's so obvious now I've been told! I'd seen it in coupe and roadster guise plenty of times but that's the only time I had seen it fully fendered and didn't even realise! Thanks guys.
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scottie:
was this a glass body?
anyone know what happened to it?
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hightri55:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/55gasser/modela.jpg

heres another one the which was low flyer related the chassis came from cookie and the body was nervous bobs old chaneled a one and the engine was dave loaders 40s brakes from simon lane. it took me about six months to get on the road.the amount of auto jumbles you used to have do to get the right parts now you lot have got it easy.lol. cheers rob.
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Japchris:
Dave Loaders pickup is now pea green fully fendered and with a Rover V8.

The matt black 32 Coupe with a 327 Chevy (rear 3/4 view in Koops posting on page 2 of this thread at Hemsby) has been off the road years but is in Surrey and is unchanged. It is suppose to have had a 27 body on it before the Coupe body.

The pink chopped Plymouth Coupe with moon discs in timetravel's post on page 3 is also in Surrey and should be out again this year looking a little more streetroddy.

Is the scalloped Merc the one that was painted gloss black and used in a Walkers crisps advert and put in a museum?
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Kapri:
Black B roadster with brown / maroon chassis wasn't a LowFlyer, belonged to Paul Wright ( pictured ) from SSR , he's now a film maker in the States.
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KoppaK:
That Plymouth coupe was owned by Dragon Dick, the Mynheer brothers did most of the work on it, a short guy called Jerry owned it at one time I thinkhttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/alien_125.gif

[Black B roadster with brown / maroon chassis wasn't a LowFlyer, belonged to Paul Wright ( pictured ) from SSR , he's now a film maker in the States.]

I once stopped to help him when he was broken down on the A34, he had gone for petrol and his wife/partner was none to pleased to see me, had a wheel brace in her hand when I approachedhttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/bigeyes_125.gif
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Lord Purple of Binfield:
Kev,
3 books? Ah,yes, I remember you telling me a few years back you were writing a non-rodding 'Guide to Car Ownership for Numptys' or somesuch. Apart from the 500 Hot Rods book, what was the other one, O esteemed wordsmith?
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KoppaK:
The Red Merc with the Silver scallops belongs to Neil Williams?????? He has owned it for 20 years plus and now lives in the South of France. It was rebuilt and had Hirohata style side glass and was used in the Take That video and on the Walkers crisps advert.One of the mags did a feature on it with another Merc owned by another Neil The car was shown in a museum for ages and he has recently got it back and is going to return it to the road soon. Oh and as far as I am aware he was never a Low Flyer, super cool car though.

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hotroddickie:
Believe this was the work of Brian(Copey) Pigpen racing from Leics who also had the Flathead rail referred to earlier.
Brian was never a Low Flyer but always had some interesting cars around the time.
Now he is racing Bangers in the Midlands top bloke but another who got out of the scene mainly due to the prices of all the old bits going silly.
Neil it is nice to see that old 24 Coupe again I remember crawling around it on hands and knees for ages at Knebworth.
Rich

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hotroddickie:
Kev
I didn't know how many reg numbers old SV42XX had worn over the years tut tut!
Rich
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32vertex:
I think the black 32 roadster on the maroon chassis is now blue with a white stripe on it, and resides in France, has Jordan headlights I believe. Am I correct ?
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nealie:
John....that's not down at Chopper's paint shop near Didcot is it?
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KoppaK:
Sure is.
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hightri55:
[I think the black 32 roadster on the maroon chassis is now blue with a white stripe on it, and resides in France, has Jordan headlights I believe. Am I correct ?]

the one you are refering to blue with white stripe and with jordan headlights is elmers old car
the black 32 on the maroon chassis is blobbys old car

has anyone got any photos of billy the fishes of the vultures 32 roadster when it was running a four banger also there was a pic in black and white of billys car at hemsby with the vulture on the cowl i think it was taken by steve carpy carpenter. and it looked the dogs could easily been taken in the forties.
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kevelliott:
Re posting on the HAMB: Essex Chick and Daisy Duke, you're wrong about the Low Flyers and the Lollipop Ladies. That was the FBI (Fleet Blithering Idiots) or as they were known in CC, thanks to Bagglady, the Hazard County mob. They also did the windscreen washing, the food fight complete with tuxedos, and the windscreen washing at Hayling. Oh, and the handbag fight with Smoke City. Ah, the good ol' days!
The only Low Flyers were (are) the owners and cars in that CC feature. There were and are plenty of cool trad/nostalgia rods in the UK that weren't members though, but it is getting confusing.
Maybe John the Hippy or Clive could back me up, but I think I'm correct in saying the full line-up is as follows:

John the Hippy '27T & Pilot
Clive Griesel '32 roadster/sometimes coupe
Jensen Smee '23T
Neil Power '34 2D-alike
Debbie Blackmore '32 roadster
Kenny Brookes '32 coupe
John the Cynic '32 coupe/roadster
Cookie '27T & Merc
Gary Janes '50 & '53(?) Chevy kustoms
Dave Loder Notso Special Pop/T

Plus Kev Elliott (A roadster), Mike Scotney ('32 roadster) and maybe Vorn (A coupe) drafted in at Bruntingthorpe just before the famous picture.

I hope I've left no-one out!
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KoppaK:
The atlantic definitely wore a plaque Kev was it not in the pic because it was British based or was it not there?
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kevelliott:
You're right John. The Atlantic was Dave Loder's. Not sure if he was there or not when the pic was taken. It's all so long ago and my memory's crap!!
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monkeybiker:
Ah - Kev, y'just reminded me that the body on my T was a leftover from Dave Loder's "Notso Special"...
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KoppaK:
I seem to vaguely remember the article said that Dave Loders 27 wasn't there because he'd broken the steering?
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monkeybiker:
I remember Dave lending me a four bangered 27T to potter around Hayling one year. Certainly FELT like the steering was broken...
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Trad V8:
Kev, good to have your roll call of who the low Flyers actually were. Myths and legends tend to see people associate many more than were actually genuine originals - O/T but a bit like U2s first gig in Edinburgh, attended by maybe 24 people - well I've personally met about 50 of them that were there - you get my drift!
Dougie B
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Ratty:
Kev , you appear to've left out Robert Williams from the list ;-)
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plumpcars:
Ratty....Don't ever change your sense of humour!
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KrazyKazza:
Thanks Kev.

Slightly O/T but do the M'Hula crew still create their
outrageous campsites??! As i remember every year looking
forward to the Nationals, (Essex showgound days) to see
what they'd put up. Was always very funny!
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hershamhotrodder:
which blobby?????dont remember martinez having a 32 roadster
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daisyduke:
I know i got it all wrong....That's what happens when it was sooooo long ago and lots of alcohol was involved.... it kinda blurs the memory!!!!! http://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/icon_smile_blush.gifhttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/icon_smile_blush.gif
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KrazyKazza:
Oooops, me too!!!!
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BobbedT:
Does anyone know if the 32 Roadster Painted Yellow and Black stripes in the Highliners (80's Psychobilly Band) promo pictures was Clives Roadster. I vaguely remember an old Army mate confirming it but the mists of time play havoc with the old noggin sometimehttp://www.nsra.org.uk/forum/images/icon_smile_blackeye.gif.....great thread by the way!!!
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monkeybiker:
The clue was in the fact that when they eventually managed to stand in a line, blocking the cruise on the temporary zebra crossing, and turn the lollipops round it spelt B-L-I-T-H-E-R-I-N-G I-D-I-O-T-S.

And somewhere I have some pictures of 'em all striding round the campsite...
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Koops:
[Does anyone know if the 32 Roadster Painted Yellow and Black stripes in the Highliners (80's Psychobilly Band) promo pictures was Clives Roadster. ...]

Looks like it could be Clive's roadster.....

http://www.thehighliners.com/images/misc07_head.htm (http://www.thehighliners.com/images/misc07_head.htm)

Here's The Highliner's video 'Henry The Wasp'. Watch for a snatch of a '32 type roadster about 1 minute in. There's a number (55) on the radiator grill, but the number plate is impossible to make out.

http://www.thehighliners.com/mp3/Henry.avi (http://www.thehighliners.com/mp3/Henry.avi) -- download clip here. About 9.1Mb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrqKxmSQtXI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrqKxmSQtXI) -- watch it on You Cube!
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bigjunglejim:
[Does anyone know if the 32 Roadster Painted Yellow and Black stripes in the Highliners (80's Psychobilly Band) ...]

It was actually Vorn's (out of the highliners) roadster but Clive did end up having it.
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hershamhotrodder:
i remember the wasp roadster outside clives house,thought vorn had the 29 coupe?????bob
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kevelliott:
It was Clive's roadster in the video, and Vorn did have the A coupe. Modt of the band had MkII Consul highlines, hence the name! Remember the pink Transit at Chelsea?!
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KrazyKazza:
Pink Transit! what about the lovely pink shorts they're wearing!!
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Coyd:
We met the Highliners in st tropez - southern France in 2003, it was my first trip in the 32, brilliant trip and we met up with the guys in a camp site, they had a pink splitty, we did,nt think they were dodgy at the time but now I see the sparkly shorts I would be slightly concerned now.
Coyd
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BobbedT:
I'm just curious to know how many paintjobs some of the cars had, obviously they were all blue and white at Hayling. Clives was matt black, red oxide, yellow and black stripes and Kenny's was blue, white with black flames and is still in red oxide, does anyone know of any other colours that they were??? Wasn't one of the 32 roadsters pink at one time??
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KoppaK:
Kens was also black with traditional flames

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3839/lowflyers019yl0.jpg
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[IanT]

KoppaK:
Here's the pink 32 in the background, I think it belonged to John the Hippy's lady.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5838/evenmoreoldstuff005viwj3.jpg
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BobbedT:
Cheers for the pics KoppaK, I notice that the post has had 7,100 views - so there could be scope for a book or even another 10 year update of the "Flyers" in Custom Car. I was looking in the Nov 1988 issue of Street Machine which had the original article in last night - it also had a feature on the Highliners and Tour gig dates. I went to see them live thanks to that article. There is a white 32 Roadster in one of the pics next to the pink VW splitty - is that yours Coyd??? I would scan the pic but I don't have a scanner - anyone else???
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timetravel:
Here ya go........
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/a7004.jpg
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SJB:
Is that the roadster (Timetravel posted above) that got changed all about completly.
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lucky devils:
hi thats coyds rod now black was at super nats cheers mick
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timetravel:
Could this be what inspired the Low Flyers at Hayling Island 1988....
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/a7005.jpg
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KoppaK:
I remember reading at the time that was the case, Kev, is that true?
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Coyd:
Yeh thats the roadster in her first year on the road, think 84, we had a fantastic trip, travelled all on the A roads, remember arriving in the south of France getting the first sight of the coast line, with the Beach boys playing, then my fuel pump packed up
did'nt matter though as we met 3 really nice girls in the camp site we were stuck at. I heard the Roadster was on the Highliners record cover but I never saw it, until now.
Coyd
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KoppaK:
A couple more from that era -

[images no longer available]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0067.jpg
This last one has been 'high-teched' silver with green flames?
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Yogi:
If ref to where are they now? Kookies Merc is back out this June after 7/8 years in a barn, and hopefully driving it up to The big Power meet in Sweden fingers crossed and everything else!
What did the plaques look like?
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SPECIAL WHEN LIT:
Yogi, do you know who owns the Merc now?
I knew the owner, Roger years ago and wondered if he still had it.
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Yogi:
Special when lit,
Dave in Atherstone now owns the Merc, mate of Rogers, comes down regular to see him
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Mart:
Was told today that the 21 stud flatty with the original air filter in the 32 coupe is the same one that's now in Old Rusty.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF006.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0040.jpg

http://www.mrhr.freeserve.co.uk/orrevamp/orbody/orbod08.jpeg

http://www.mrhr.freeserve.co.uk/orrevamp/ormech/ormech504.jpeg
Mart.
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Last original post from old NSRA forum: 17 JUN 2007
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[lancelot link]

Thank you so much to everybody who has taken the time to contribute to this thread ....I am VERY proud to have this association in my history and , although I have been involved in various HOT ROD based projects over the years , my heart is still very much embraced by the whole Nostalgia movement ....it gets under your skin.
I will dig out some of my pictures as soon as I get a chance and scan them .....nothing much different to those listed , as Kev said , we were so busy enjoying ourselves to really take many pics .....

Thats me to the right in the beige jacket , by the way !! I was about 22/23 then !!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF012.jpg

GARY JANES

[englishrodder]

Wow what a great thread, even better to see my old 32 Roadster was part of it!
I bought it from Dave before he left for the US
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/kelvindunn/Beckys/scan0001.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/timetraveldvds/LF022.jpg

Then rebuilt the motor, and the whole car....Miss it lots
Sold it to some guy up north , but then saw the the car re-emerge with a different plate...

I still have the old front plate form the car hanging in my garage!

[Enbloc]

Some more pictures to add from Terry...

Bruntingthorpe....

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/ClarkDevey/Save.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/ClarkDevey/Save0001.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/ClarkDevey/Save0002.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/ClarkDevey/Save0003.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/ClarkDevey/Save0004.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/ClarkDevey/Save0005.jpg

[kapri]

First shot is Hayling ;)

Looks like a Jag rear hiding as well :eek:

[Terry Howarth]

Thanks Clark for putting me piccies up yes your right kev was hayling, also i think last shot might be early hemsby

[DEUCETUB]

Here are a few more mostly from bruntingthorpe
<img src="http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-52-24-1-img008.jpg">
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-53-20-1-img009.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-49-1-img010.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-50-7-img015.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-52-9-img017.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-52-10-img018.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-10-5-17-2-img020.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-10-5-17-1-img019.jpg

[DEUCETUB]

Few more of the kustoms and Kenny's coupe at the all ford rally Abingdon

http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-49-2-img011.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-49-3-img012.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-50-4-img013.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-56-51-8-img016.jpg
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-11-30-18-1-img008.jpg

[lancelot link]

wouldn't mind a set of those steels from Johns Coupe now .....very desirable nowadays

[DEUCETUB]

Too right Gary,wonder what became of that set?were they called general jumbo wheels?Bruce Meyers red three window had a set on before he owned it.

[lancelot link]

Can't remember their name but weren't they used on commercial vehicles like Ambulances or similar ?

The Aero-discs on The Hamb are a similar idea...

[Japchris]

Couple more-
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/b1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/File0225.jpg
Plus a French mini-Merc (Ford Veddette) also at Bruntingthorpe -
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/v1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/v2.jpg

[Japchris]

Like to see Clive's Ford as it looks today! I believe the windscreen lives on in another old Ford currently being restored.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/JapChris/h1.jpg

[bigbadad]

only just found this - great thread.

[weemark]

Too right Gary,wonder what became of that set?were they called general jumbo wheels?Bruce Meyers red three window had a set on before he owned it.


Can't remember their name but weren't they used on commercial vehicles like Ambulances or similar ?

The Aero-discs on The Hamb are a similar idea...

they also look like lyon's wheel covers - covers for 35 wires - ive been trying for a set for about 2 years now and cant seem to turn anything up...

[blownthames]

Hi,
Always had some questions about the plaques....where did the design come from? did only the original members and cars have them or were they avaliable for a while? how many were produced?? how many are still about??
They became a very recognisable part of UK rodding but not alot is known about it...
Baz

[kev elliott]

Maybe you'd like to answer this Gary....!

[Battersea Boys]

I seem to remember at the time it was running fenderless in a group would make it harder to get stopped?......................

[chris]

I'd really badly love to build either of these.....

http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-9-53-20-1-img009.jpg

http://usera.ImageCave.com/DEUCETUB/2008-319-11-30-18-1-img008.jpg

...absolutely perfect :cool:

[MisteR Tee]

Did any of the Low Flyers live on the A3 between Shannon Corner & the Kingston junction as I seem to remember seeing one of these cars in a driveway along there? Even stopped once when there was a group of guys there & asked if they were, got a bit of a strange reaction at the time (not surprising I suppose!).

[Truxdelux]

Clive!!

[Terry Howarth]

Yep Clives mum and dad

[hershambob]

and jenny

[MisteR Tee]

Ah, I'll have to have a word with him about that then, next time I see him!:D