What would look good rodded?

[Ford34/2]

To follow on from the Jag thread. What is'nt the norm but would look good rodded?
Doing a quick scoot around fleabay (Item number: 280629860473)
What about a early 50's Riley RMA?
Dare I mention Boyd going away from the standard body types with the 'Whatthehaye'.

[langysrodshop]

Been done Stan, wasn't nice either :rolleyes:

The problem with most british cars is that they are too short, too narrow & too tall, also most have 4 doors :(



To follow on from the Jag thread. What is'nt the norm but would look good rodded?
Doing a quick scoot around fleabay (Item number: 280629860473)
What about a early 50's Riley RMA?
Dare I mention Boyd going away from the standard body types with the 'Whatthehaye'.

[Fatguyz]

apart from the obvious answers :rolleyes:...........not "rodded" as such but another Jag

http://www.fluevog.com/files_2/flueguar1.html

FG:greet:

[Ford34/2]

Steve,
I know what your saying but is it because they have never been done right?
There are plenty examples of the more popular body styles done wrong (A's, B's etc), where the car does'nt sit right or bad mix of parts, conflicting styles etc
Some Pops look great, some not so good. The standard 12 that was done the other year was class and it looked and sat very well (the one with the Volvo engine).

[langysrodshop]

I thought it looked aweful Stan, unfortunately 2 door cars are just more pleasing to the eye, take a cortina for instance the 2 dr looks much better than a 4dr. Theres a very good reason 99% of rods are 2dr's




Steve,
I know what your saying but is it because they have never been done right?
There are plenty examples of the more popular body styles done wrong (A's, B's etc), where the car does'nt sit right or bad mix of parts, conflicting styles etc
Some Pops look great, some not so good. The standard 12 that was done the other year was class and it looked and sat very well (the one with the Volvo engine).

[totus]

On my visit to new Jersey a couple years back there was a Citroen Traction avant rodded and it looked sweet, running SBC

will try and dig out a pic but fear it may be lost in my old computer

cheers

Brian

[Ford34/2]

Steve,
your right 2 door cars will always look better.
What triggered this was probably me thinking about the Pilot in this months CC. It ticked a lot of boxes for me. Colours went well. The stance and execution were spot on.
I hav'nt been around the scene long enough to say that a look/style/era is the one for me.
I look at magazines and no matter what the style i.e. traditional or ultra modern, I either like it or I don't.
Another example would be the guy on here a few month back that fetched over a french 30's pickup. Something a little different from what we are used to seeing.

[40Stude]

Been done Stan, wasn't nice either :rolleyes:

The problem with most british cars is that they are too short, too narrow & too tall, also most have 4 doors :(

Sorry Steve, I have to disagree, as I can think of a couple of RMA Rileys done way back in the dark ages that looked good. One with a V6 from memory and one with a Daimler. At least one of them warranted a CC feature, possibly both and they sat relatively level, looked pretty stock and wouldn't take much to look contemporary. A bit like Tony Rose's Rover, where the hell is that car now?

[Blackjack]

Traction Avant Coupe;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Citroen_7C_Coupe_1937.jpg

http://www.coupe-desire.com/pictures/6/679//Citroen_TA_coupe_11A_2.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_u_PxIvG0Lq4/R5HFkkfMR0I/AAAAAAAAAEk/D_P1rEfCcFw/s400/tacoupe.jpg

[rem]

Those Rileys are probably one of the better-looking old English cars, but it would still be difficult (in my opinion) to modify one without making a mess of it. I'm pretty sure the roof is perforated steel over a wooden frame, with padding and vynil on the outside, so that would create a lot of work, even if you came up with a pleasing restyling. Don't know if they did a 2-door version? Making a longer bonnet, moving the cowl back and two-dooring it might work, and could give the impression of a miniature '30s coachbuilt car.

I don't really get the obsession with everyone wanting their car to be a "hot rod" or even a "street rod". Modifying old cars (and bikes) should be compulsory as far as I'm concerned, but hot rods and street rods are historically a specific style of car, and were predominantly American-bodied.

[40Stude]

I thought it looked aweful Stan, unfortunately 2 door cars are just more pleasing to the eye, take a cortina for instance the 2 dr looks much better than a 4dr. Theres a very good reason 99% of rods are 2dr's

It ain't what you do, it's the way you do it. Steve Bradshaw's (I hope I got that right) ex minicab more door Mk 1??

[langysrodshop]

Stan i think the Pilot is one of the very few that can pull it off although i'm not a fan of them.



Steve,
your right 2 door cars will always look better.
What triggered this was probably me thinking about the Pilot in this months CC. It ticked a lot of boxes for me. Colours went well. The stance and execution were spot on.
I hav'nt been around the scene long enough to say that a look/style/era is the one for me.
I look at magazines and no matter what the style i.e. traditional or ultra modern, I either like it or I don't.
Another example would be the guy on here a few month back that fetched over a french 30's pickup. Something a little different from what we are used to seeing.

[rem]

OK, that took a while to write, with my diplomatic head on :)

The ones Al mentions sound OK, but at the end of the day would now be looked on as modified classics (or 'destroyed classics' by the owners club?), or 'specials'?

[40Stude]

I don't really get the obsession with everyone wanting their car to be a "hot rod" or even a "street rod". Modifying old cars (and bikes) should be compulsory as far as I'm concerned, but hot rods and street rods are historically a specific style of car, and were predominantly American-bodied.

Agree 100% Andy. Old Brit $hit can still look good though. Pigeon holes optional.

[langysrodshop]

Alan there will always be the odd one that nails the look, Gary Kyberts 32 sedan springs to mind, but predominantly 2dr cars are better looking, thats why there is so many of them !!! in my opinion of course.
I would be surprised if we agreed as i'm sure we both like different cars.



Sorry Steve, I have to disagree, as I can think of a couple of RMA Rileys done way back in the dark ages that looked good. One with a V6 from memory and one with a Daimler. At least one of them warranted a CC feature, possibly both and they sat relatively level, looked pretty stock and wouldn't take much to look contemporary. A bit like Tony Rose's Rover, where the hell is that car now?

[cossie pop]

It ain't what you do, it's the way you do it. Steve Bradshaw's (I hope I got that right) ex minicab more door Mk 1??

Think that may be wrong Bannanarama sang "it aint what you do its the way that you do it" not Steve Bradshaw :D

[40Stude]

You're right Steve, it would be a sad old world if we all agreed on everything, I don't have a problem with moredoors at all, Brit or US. Johnny Best's Deuce, Terry Carpenters Deuce, hell even back in the 70's the Osborne's 'Insurance in Motion' Sedan, Tony Ham's Y, Dave Finch's 'True Brit', Jam Roller, Amber Gamble. the Lady Luck Hillman, what about Bill Carter's Hillbilly Express?

Brit cars can and have looked cool as a penguin's butt and will continue to, as long as people see the potential.

[40Stude]

Think that may be wrong Bannanarama sang "it aint what you do its the way that you do it" not Steve Bradshaw :D

But I'll bet he would have jumped at the chance of overseeing the video....

[MisteR Tee]

Those Rileys are probably one of the better-looking old English cars, but it would still be difficult (in my opinion) to modify one without making a mess of it. I'm pretty sure the roof is perforated steel over a wooden frame, with padding and vynil on the outside, so that would create a lot of work, even if you came up with a pleasing restyling. Don't know if they did a 2-door version? Making a longer bonnet, moving the cowl back and two-dooring it might work, and could give the impression of a miniature '30s coachbuilt car.

I don't really get the obsession with everyone wanting their car to be a "hot rod" or even a "street rod". Modifying old cars (and bikes) should be compulsory as far as I'm concerned, but hot rods and street rods are historically a specific style of car, and were predominantly American-bodied.

Always liked the RMF convert, very gracefull shape. Used to be one in Mitcham that was started to be modified but never finished.;)

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Amen to your last para, couldn't have put it better.:D

[Morris460]

I don't really get the obsession with everyone wanting their car to be a "hot rod" or even a "street rod". Modifying old cars (and bikes) should be compulsory as far as I'm concerned, but hot rods and street rods are historically a specific style of car, and were predominantly American-bodied.
And historically it was about going fast. Look at a lot of the old Lake bed cars, aesthetics is not thier strong point, going fast is. Also the Americans were not adverse to using British tin when it suited, as the Gasser classes showed. I don't get the thing about proportions etc., I thought "hot rods" were about the performance? (opinions may vary:D)

Note- I may be biased, being the owner of a badly proportioned four door British car:dunce:

[rem]

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That's nice. Hop up the motor and do away with the dip in the doors and that'd be really nice.



Note- I may be biased, being the owner of a badly proportioned four door British car:dunce:

See, even you didn't call it a "hot rod" :D It looks alright in your avatar, but it's not the clearest of pics - is it in the same family as those old Wolseleys and MG Magnettes?

[Paul]

I have a foot in both camps really.....but the reason why 2 door US metal usually looks right is because that's whats most prevelent....we're used to see it and know what we're looking at..
Yep most English cars from the 30s-50s look too tall, too short and not wide enough but it comes down to picking the right car and picking the right mods...an Austin 7/ruby can look fanstastic, there's a black, fenderless one (channeled I would think) around thats just perfect and I think still in original paint!!...conversly I did see one with a Jag IRS and IFS that looked like it was plonked on an old bed frame with the wheels right outside the fenders.
The RM first shown would look brilliant just shaved and dropped with straight paint...but would look better 2 doored, chopped slightly couped up and the rearend shortened a bit...

anyway this is a "what would look good" thread
so Jag SS, fenderless, shaved, satin black keep the wires
Bentley (Le Mans style)...fenderless, channeled, drop beam, quick change...big ass wires..this could work on loads of English sports cars...think fenderless MG T series, cleaned up and lakes racer style
a lot of the coach built saloons have low roof lines already and look channelled...up rate the mechanics, clean up the body and off you go.....
Mk10 Jag......fantastic lead sled potencial
and the list goes on!!!

[langysrodshop]

So why havn't any of them been done Paul ???



I have a foot in both camps really.....but the reason why 2 door US metal usually looks right is because that's whats most prevelent....we're used to see it and know what we're looking at..
Yep most English cars from the 30s-50s look too tall, too short and not wide enough but it comes down to picking the right car and picking the right mods...an Austin 7/ruby can look fanstastic, there's a black, fenderless one (channeled I would think) around thats just perfect and I think still in original paint!!...conversly I did see one with a Jag IRS and IFS that looked like it was plonked on an old bed frame with the wheels right outside the fenders.
The RM first shown would look brilliant just shaved and dropped with straight paint...but would look better 2 doored, chopped slightly couped up and the rearend shortened a bit...

anyway this is a "what would look good" thread
so Jag SS, fenderless, shaved, satin black keep the wires
Bentley (Le Mans style)...fenderless, channeled, drop beam, quick change...big ass wires..this could work on loads of English sports cars...think fenderless MG T series, cleaned up and lakes racer style
a lot of the coach built saloons have low roof lines already and look channelled...up rate the mechanics, clean up the body and off you go.....
Mk10 Jag......fantastic lead sled potencial
and the list goes on!!!

[Adam]

There is the mk10 Jag with twin vortec superchargers. Built by Dave bird I don't know if he is stil the owner or not. IMO this looked/s great.

Then there was the one done in the states as a sled / custom. Green & cream was it with snakeskin interior? I'm sorry but it did absolutely nothing for me. It just looked wrong and nothing worked right. Now others may love it which is fine as the man said "opinions vary".

It's a brave Rodder that takes on british tin & a clever one to boot that gets it right.

[bulldog]

just had a nice ride out to roxton beds today,saying about what cars looks best to build,so a nice model y being put together,a single seater ford racer,body being made in alloy,some nice chassis work being done there and hand built model A being put back to life there,and being next door to bucklands work shop,so any one thinking about putting a t ,b,a,or any fabracation work done,or had a an intrest or a dream like me,of having a chassis or steel body shell put together ,must say it is a quick way of getting a good start,and its not been bad on price,when you see what you get for your money,so you can now set your sights on a car ,that up two a few years ago where out of reach to most of us,so worth a look,thanks steve

[Fatguyz]

There is the mk10 Jag with twin vortec superchargers. Built by Dave bird I don't know if he is stil the owner or not. IMO this looked/s great.

Then there was the one done in the states as a sled / custom. Green & cream was it with snakeskin interior? I'm sorry but it did absolutely nothing for me. It just looked wrong and nothing worked right. Now others may love it which is fine as the man said "opinions vary".

It's a brave Rodder that takes on british tin & a clever one to boot that gets it right.

what this one http://www.fluevog.com/files_2/flueguar1.html from my first reply :whistle: and Dave Birds Mk10 is a fecking awesome piece of kit. I was looking at the E type thread and thinking that the E type would be a great base for a project....bare with me here. I was looking at a pic of Jim McGees vette........another incredible piece of machinary and what makes it so, to people "like us".......well its a fairly iconic "base" vehicle and thrown into the mix is the drag strip inspired look with more horsepower than is sensible....but it is retaining what the car was originally about.......now the E type is a gorgeous car as well. While the shape is not really like the vette, you could put them in the same category almost......so would it work.....very probably if in the right hands........but you can say that about ANY modification from standard carried out on a car:)

FG

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/Fatguyz1/mk101.jpg

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/Fatguyz1/mk102.jpg

[Adam]

Yep thats the one Jase'. Dave has nearly finished my old '57 Chevy pick-up.

Now an E type with a blown big block bursting out the hood with a full race rear end would do it for me. Not a Hot Rod but it would be an awesome pro street project just like Steve Nemetas? did with the Aston.

It's good we don't all like exactly the same thing. You may have an idea and find someone has already built it and it looks a pile of poo so has saved you 3 years & countless thousands of £'s or it looks fantastic & you take a few idea's from it.

But there are some shapes that just don't do it for me. A 4 door English car can have 4 windows in each side with quarter lights. Some just end up looking like a mini bus for the special school which is a shame because the same input on a different body would have had much different results. I have nothing against more doors, our '57 Chevy station wagon should emerge later this year which is a 4 door IMO (only) nicer than 2 door wagons.

[igotsoul]

Been done Stan, wasn't nice either :rolleyes:

The problem with most british cars is that they are too short, too narrow & too tall, also most have 4 doors :(

"VIC'S? Austin at the pod circa '83

[Paul]

So why havn't any of them been done Paul ???

no idea Steve.....I have seen a SBC powered MG T series in the US and there was both a big Healy and a Frog Eye Sprite gasser racing in the 60s....In fact I tried to buy a SBC powered Healy a few years ago that had come in to the UK to be "restored" back to stock..it had been a circuit racer in the US and was a damn site less than rougher but stock cars...
Also the cost of a base car....and it's value once restored puts these things well out of my reach....Id rather have my A ..... the point of this thread was to put forward suggestions of what could look good and IMHO they would....
And Jasper won't let me and Tim Gasser his MG.......60s show car..different matter!

[Blackjack]

That Mk 10 does it for me - probably wouldn't want it tubbed as much - but everything else is spot on.

[Morris460]

"VIC'S? Austin at the pod circa '83
Vic Freeland, local to me (both in Welland Valley Roadsters). He gave up many years ago and left the scene. The car was wrecked by and idiot who cut the roof off to make a roadster:eek: