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Willys coop v8
30-08-21, 10:46 PM
Hi folks, I know it's normal to spray candy red over a gold or silver base, but what if I spray it over a red base? Cheers folks:thumbs_up_smiley:

pushrod
31-08-21, 12:02 PM
Being as candys only like a coloured varnish i think you would loose your sparkle !
Ive only ever sprayed it over silver so who knows !

mygasser
31-08-21, 04:15 PM
are you talking a metallic red? if so it'd work and maybe require less candy to get the look you want. but with the cost of candy and if you're base coating with a metallic red i'd just choose the right red and add a couple more coats of clear than normal to add depth and not bother with the candy at all. it seems counter productive as it's not what candy was meant to be for/to do. that's my thoughts, i mean there are plenty of real nice metallic pearl reds out there.
neil.

MisteR Tee
31-08-21, 04:38 PM
are you talking a metallic red? if so it'd work and maybe require less candy to get the look you want. but with the cost of candy and if you're base coating with a metallic red i'd just choose the right red and add a couple more coats of clear than normal to add depth and not bother with the candy at all. it seems counter productive as it's not what candy was meant to be for/to do. that's my thoughts, i mean there are plenty of real nice metallic pearl reds out there.
neil.
Candy paint is not a tint to add to red, it's a specific finish like metallic but brighter & they always need to be over a gold or silver base, depending on what effect you want, dark or light.

mygasser
31-08-21, 05:50 PM
Candy paint is not a tint to add to red, it's a specific finish like metallic but brighter & they always need to be over a gold or silver base, depending on what effect you want, dark or light.
maybe i wasn't clear. i didn't mean it should be added to red, although candy is see through like a tint and is often added to clear over the metallic base as you say (usually silver/gold metallic/flake). i meant he could spray candy over a metallic red as he would over silver/gold but the effect wouldn't be the same. it would just look like it was many, many layers of red candy over silver even if only a few layers were applied.
i googled 'candy paint' to check what i thought it was, a 'tint' sprayed in layers over silver/gold (usually) that can have a darker shade if more layers are applied. eastwood seemed to be the most credible/believable of the internet sites for reference so this is their say on what it is.
neil.
https://garage.eastwood.com/eastwood-chatter/what-is-the-difference-between-candy-pearl-and-metallic-paint/

MisteR Tee
31-08-21, 06:32 PM
There's lots of info online about it, the usual basecoats are gold or silver but you can use other colours to change the hue.

mygasser
31-08-21, 11:00 PM
There's lots of info online about it, the usual basecoats are gold or silver but you can use other colours to change the hue.
agreed.

Willys coop v8
31-08-21, 11:22 PM
:thumbs_up_smiley:

Brizey
01-09-21, 10:25 AM
Candy is a translucent (semi transparent) paint and will show/reflect whatever colour is underneath it, which is why most base coats used under it are either Gold, Silver, Bronze or Copper, all of which reflect through the Candy with a different hue. Putting Candy direct on a straight Red will take away the effect normally required.

Candy was also applied over Metalflake in the `60s on many show cars of the time!.
Just make sure before applying that the surface is as perfectly flat as can be as Candy tends to reflect any surface imperfections! :o...

kapri
03-09-21, 08:52 AM
Look on the old Uk Hotrods site, Kev Reliander ( RIP) put up tech on various trick paints. You need the excat conditions to spray it correctly as ther is NO reworking it afterwards and even a broken window in a toilet , with the door shut , can cause a draught creating unfixable blooming .

Brizey
03-09-21, 09:47 AM
....You need the excat conditions to spray it correctly as ther is NO reworking it afterwards and even a broken window in a toilet , with the door shut , can cause a draught creating unfixable blooming .

I must have been really lucky then when spraying my old roadster, Kev. The garage I built/sprayed it in was a draughty wood framed corrugated iron affair with a dirt floor!.

Seriously though, your correct Kev!. Draughts cause air movement that can cause blooming and carry all manner of airborne contaminants that really stand out if allowed to get on Candy paints!...

51404

kapri
04-09-21, 11:04 AM
Likewise Brian I did one paint job with the doors on the garage broken , and having to throw hot water over a panel at a time. Thataalso turned far too good for thr circumstances LOL