a bit of this and a bit of that.

so as the c-max will be scrapped i decided it could go without a few bits that could be sold on or used. nearly new h/d battery, rear h/brake calipers, a/c compressor and towball with electrics will all go to the nash and nearly new front discs and pads and the calipers will be put aside for future use. the also nearly new 17" tyres will be sold and the starter motor and almost 4 gallons of diesel will go to the s-max i use as my 'daily'. that lot way increases the value of the c-max beyond just it's scrap value which is a bonus.
i forgot to say yesterday we fitted 4 castors to my old lathe so it's easy to move out of the way if needed.
neil.

Post the lathe up for sale on the mig welding forum theres always someone out there looking.
https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/

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just had a look and couldn't see a classified section?

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that'll be why then. i've just bumped the ad here and reduced the price so fingers crossed.
neil.

I'd love it but I've no-where to put it.

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it's on wheels, you can roll it out of the way when not in use, lol.

that's both of the steelies offset changed to where they need to be. i've got no excuse to not unbury the nash now and make a start on it...... finally.
neil.

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Cheers Tim W

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ash popped in after work with 2 of his mates so we could move my 'old' lathe over the road to the other garage. i'd fitted 4 woefully inadequate castors to it to roll it out to be loaded when it gets sold. so we went down my drive, into the road, up the hill, over the road and the best bit was across the soft grass to the garage entrance. out of the way now so more room so i can chop the exploder axle case to size and fit the new halfshafts ready for mock up under the nash.
neil.

today the next mish mash disc brake conversion project arrived, lol. it's AC beam axle uprights, mk2 jag' hubs/discs and xj jag' 4 pot calipers.
neil.

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Cheers Tim W

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so lets get on with this disc brake conversion then.
first we stripped the hub, bearings etc from the mk2 jag upright. gary had already found that the jag outer bearing fits to ac spindle so that was a bonus. the jag inner was unfortunately too small so the ac spindle by 0.22mm when ,measured so that part of the spindle was set up in the lathe and we crept up on a good fit. next the jag hub seal inner is much bigger than the ac was so we needed a 'ring' to press onto the spindle. this we cut from the jag upright and turned flat and opened the inner bore to be a press fit. this was pressed on with loctite for good measure. the jag hub now fits the ac spindle using stock jag bearings and seal. last part is to mount the caliper, so we needed to know where it could go without interfering with the rest of the suspension etc. i checked gary's thread and it was decided to mount it above the steering arm at the rear as mounted on the car. at the front could have been too close to (as in touched) the front shock so that was a no go. with the caliper set in place with new pads and cad spacers to centralise it over the disc a template was made for the caliper bracket and a measurement for thickness was also taken (16mm). this is now transferred to some 12mm plate which now has it's pilot holes drilled. we'll thread the holes that hold the caliper to the bracket, not sure yet if we'll do the same at the spindle end, but they will need 4mm spacers to make up the required thickness.
neil.
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Neil that is very impressive, looks like I will need to order the new discs soon.

New lathe put to use.

Cheers.

that'd be a good idea mate and thanks.
neil.

that's one side done, only needing the right bolts when they arrive.
neil.

Nice one Neil. Cheers Gary

the other side's all done now, just waiting for the right bolts to arrive and that's that. the inner bearing face on the spindle was worn so needed building up before turning down to suit the jag bearing.
neil.

Many thanks Neil.

Looking forward to fitting them.

Also see how your car is coming along.

Gary

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Many thanks Neil.

Looking forward to fitting them.

Also see how your car is coming along.

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i'll let you know as soon as the bolts arrive mate.
neil.

the bolts arrived, they are now trimmed to length and both sides are fitted up ready to go.
neil.

been a while since something not nash related has happened. remember the fence we made atop the retaining wall behind my house? well we rebuilt the next retaining wall up the garden a couple of weeks ago so today it was tape measure, pen and pad time to measure up what timber etc is needed to make a matching fence on top of this wall. wickes are delivering the timber and ballast (to concrete behind the wall) tuesday and we'll collect the fixings from screwfix tomorrow. post brackets will be made here as i can't justify what 'proper' ones cost and they aren't right for me anyway. we can make ones that are spot on for fit and looks. hot rodders ay, we can't leave anything stock.
neil.

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Cheers Tim W

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that's all 7 brackets made for the fence. 4 simple straight ones and 3 odd corner ones that'll have a 3rd fixing under the post. 2 coats of unthinned smoothrite slapped on for protection so they'll be ready to fit tomorrow.
neil.

https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/attachme...51-jpg.645224/

we're getting there with the fence. i'll get hinges and a catch tomorrow and we can make a gate to match the fence.
neil.
https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/attachme...43-jpg.645236/

that's the fence finished with a matching bespoke gate and painted to match the fence lower down the garden.
neil.
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Cracking job .... back too cars now !

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yes mate, that's the plan. we did a bit on the nash today after painting the 2nd coat on the fence.
neil.

i also forgot to mention we sat the pillar drill 'gubbins' on to it's pillar yesterday too. proper heavy old school like drill but still 240v. i bought it when we went to collect my bigger lathe. it was a 'what else do you have for sale' things, you know how it goes.
neil.

we have another little job to do monday ish. head gaskets on a v8 pop ute. pics when it arrives.
neil.

here's a couple of pics of the pop ute now it's here.
neil.
https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/attachme...17-jpg.645411/
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we had a busy day/evening getting the ute apart today. whoever built this wants a kick up the ar5e, why would you make a section of the 'bulkhead' sit right on top of the rocker cover each side when there's nothing there to make that needed? stupid i say. there i feel better now, lol. anyway the heads are off and it looks like the leaking gasket was the n/s where the head bolts weren't tight. almost loose more like it some of them, almost as is the builder got disturbed halfway through torqueing the bolts and forgot to finish them all afterwards. clean up tomorrow and reassembly as long as it's not too hot, then it'll probably be just refit and torque the heads in the evening.
neil.
https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/attachme...1ae82201aae0a7

washed the heads off in the parts washer, then cleaned all the gasket faces on them and the block. don't know what sort of sealer they'd used before but it ended up taking thinners and wire wool to get it all off. proper gooey sticky stuff it was. too hot so we called it a day.
neil.

well that all went t1ts up then :(. creeping up on the torque, 30 all round, then 40 on bolts 1-10, then 50 again on 1-10. when we went to 60 the problems arose, we'd not even go tto the 70 they're supposed to be. so...... 6 head bolts one side and 5 the other side pulled the threads out of the block. 2 of them already had helicoils too so they'll need timeserts or similar. worst thing is one is right at the back so the engine needs removing to sort it.
DOH!!!
neil.

Might that explain why they were less than tight in the first place? Could that be a known (to some?) phenomenon to act as an early warning of trouble? My Rover experience is limited but without any such problem, thankfully.

Chris

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Might that explain why they were less than tight in the first place? Could that be a known (to some?) phenomenon to act as an early warning of trouble? My Rover experience is limited but without any such problem, thankfully.

Chris

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exactly what i thought chris. some of the 'loose' ones when disassembling it stripped when putting it together.
neil.

F***in nightmare with rover blocks ! People don't think too chase the threads out before slapping on new gaskets and they bottom out on all the crap which doesn't help !

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yep, we're looking for a good 3.5/3.9 to swap in now if anyone knows of/has one to sell.
anyway i forgot to put a pic of the ally 'springs' from the block as well as a helicoil, lol.
neil.
https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/attachme...48-jpg.645476/

Bad AC had a 4.6 Rover for sale, I think you've missed that one now.

the owners dropped off an engine yesterday for the ute. it's the one they'd taken out due to oil pressure issues 2 years ago. however when they got it out they realised the sender was very loose, doh! so they've asked if we can crack and retorque all the head bolts (to check the threads) and if all's ok strip and freshen it up with bearings, rings etc.
neil.

Not worth changing the original block to studs?

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the hole where the helicoil pulled out is now almost 3/4" diameter but the number of stripped threads make it not worth doing. it has to come out even if it were fixable as at least one aren't accessible in the car. they have this other engine and have decided to get it built/freshened and swapped back in the car.
neil.

The section on the bulk head was ok when it was 1st built with its little flat head in it. Obviously when the rover went in it had issues with clearance.

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yes mate, it's proper tight each side at the back. there would've been more room with a small block chevy, lol.
neil.

Would have been a proper fix then ....
I had rover i salvaged by having the toolmaker in work make me a 3/4 unc bolt with 1/2 unc centre tapped in ... home made helicoil for a big hole turned in amd lopped off ... ran for 3 years fine

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yes mate, it's proper tight each side at the back. there would've been more room with a small block chevy, lol.
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we took the heads off of the new old engine today and cleaned the threads in the block. then we sat the heads back on and checked they would take the 70 lbft of torque. the only issue was 2 bolts (one each side) snapped off flush with the block when initially loosening them off. luckily they both drilled and unscrewed ok, then took the torque when the heads were refitted.
so we look to be full steam ahead stripping the rest down and measuring everything ready to order some new parts.
neil.

Bullet dodged!

Chris

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agreed, so far so good. the bores all look good too with no lips. :thumbs_up_smiley:

today we got the flip front off the ute and took it over the road for safe keeping. the 'new' engine is up on the engine build stand to be torn apart. i think that's more important than getting the 'old' one out as we can do that while waiting on parts for the 'new' one. proper project management that is, lol.
neil.

Sounds like a plan .... :thumbsup2:

so the spare engine for the ute is all apart. bores will take a hone and rings so that's ok. the crank badly needs a grind, by the scoring at least 20 thou! next i guess is pull the engine from the car and strip that to see if i can use the crank from that in this block. nothing's easy, lol. oh, and they want the gearbox out to get it rebuilt while the engine's out too.
neil.

Plenty on then !

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stop press..... the owners of the ute have opted to buy a rebuilt 3.9 i've been offered. it better be good......
neil.

that's the dead one out along with the gearbox. i'll split them apart in the morning so the 'box can go for a freshen up.
neil.
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today i bought the 3.9 engine for the ute, good news. maybe not so good is it's wrapped in a project car, doh! even that's not all bad as it's a gasser at least, a pb cresta shaped one. ash' can't collect it 'til the weekend after next so it's now a waiting game 'til we can move forward.
neil.

So apart from getting the Rover engine to put the Pop Ute right, you'll be doing the Cresta next then?

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eerrrr....... yes and no. all that'll be done to it is anything that'll make it more saleable as a project for a new owner.
the plan is to get on with mocking up the engine and box in the nash next.
neil.

had a call on my way to gt yarmouth today. my mate john potts borrowed a trailer to move a car and said he'd also move the cresta to my house for me while he had it.
what a mate he is, thanks john :thumbsup2:
so he's saved ashley using up most of a sunday and also when i get back i can start stripping the engine out a few days sooner, win win :D
neil.

here's a few cresta pics
neil.
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the sheet metal's all off of the cresta now and the engine and box are ready to lift out...... tomorrow, lol.
neil.

the engine's out, split from the 'box and up on my engine stand. the timing cover will be swapped as it's different and we'll pop the heads off as we have the head gasket set here from the original job. the sump will get dropped to check the shells too while it's on the stand. easy to replace them now if the engine's not as recently rebuilt as we were led to believe. i'm sure it'll be fine, i mean who ever lies when they're selling something right? :whistle:
neil.

oh, i picked up the parts needed to finish the steering on the cresta and the nash this evening too. :thumbs_up_smiley:
neil.

the 'new' and 'rebuilt' engine is now fully stripped. it's sort of rebuilt.... new cam and lifters, new double row timing chain set, new piston rings and big end bearings. they didn't have the crank' out or they'd have seen the bearings were just showing brass/copper. the crank' itself is nice and smooth and still within stock specs. some of the rings are stuck in their grooves from sitting. the cam' timing is a tooth out and all the exhaust valves have just kissed the pistons with one now not sealing.
so..... some good and some not so much. all easily put right and i'm glad i took it apart rather than just sticking it in on trust. i'll need to get back to the 'vendor' to see if we can get back a contribution to at least cover the parts costs.
neil.

Did they have it running ? Strange if the cam was a tooth out !

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How many times has an engine been sold as "good runner" or "freshly rebuilt" when the truth becomes evident after purchase.
I'm sure you'll get it all sorted Neil.

Ah i know what thats like. Been there a couple of times recently.

Hoping all goes well.

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he said he had, yes. that'll be why there's a little mark on each piston. i know it would run, i've had diesels run a tooth out either way. they clatter a bit one way bit they run. the crank' sprocket on this double roller timing set has 3 notches to advance or retard the cam' 4 degrees but it'll go back in 'straight up'.
neil.

I wonder how far out, in degrees, a tooth is? How many teeth on the cam sprocket? 360 / that number I suppose is the answer.

Chris

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one tooth can be either runs bad or bends valves, it depends on the lift and duration of the cam that's in there.
neil.

so that's that one down to the block now. bores got a light hone as i'll be replacing the rings too, silly not to at this stage. all nice and clean ready to rebuild. started on the heads too, one's stripped and an exhaust valve replaced from 'stock' lol. that chamber wouldn't hold white spirit. they'll get proper umbrella valve guide rubbers too, they don't have any on the exhausts and only like a dished down rubber washer on the inlets. that's about as bad as small block chevy v8's, they have an 'o' ring on each valve. like that'll stop oil running down the guides.
neil.

all the parts are ordered so it's a waiting game now.
neil.

the parts are starting to come in so some jobs can be done. the heads have been rebuilt with proper valve guide rubbers, new rings are fitted to the pistons and the crankshaft is now back in the block. until we get the big end shells that's all that can be done. well we could sand any loose orange paint off of the block and paint it a different colour (yellow?), or even black.
neil.

big end shells arrived today so we should have it all together over the weekend ready to refit. bill dropped the rebuilt gearbox back this week so fingers crossed it should be done some time next week.
neil.

my back decided it wasn't going near any engine rebuilds over the weekend, it's a bit better today so we got the pistons and rods in the block and the heads, pushrods, timing set and rockers all refitted.
neil.
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Getting there mate.

I bet your loving building a Rover:).

G

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the parts are nice and light compared to the american v8's i've built for sure mate.
neil.

we've stripped the timing cover, waterpump, etc from the engine we took from the ute. all the gasket faces are now clean and we stripped the oil pump, replaced all the copper washers on it's fittings and packed the gears with vaseline ready for the first fire up. one 'bung/blank' was loose as it's threads were stripped in the housing, so i found a brass male female adapter with the male being tapered. some ptfe tape on it's threads and it tightened up fine followed by the bung with a new washer. last job today was to black the timing case, water pump and engine block with black smoothrite, much better.
neil.
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we're getting there. we took the sd1 sump, pickup and windage tray from the old engine. then knocked the dents out of the sump, straightened the pickup and fitted the pickup and windage tray to the new engine. the sump is now painted black (see top right of pic). also the timing cover, water pump and pulley and damper/pulley are fitted so the front is all buttoned up now. the sump can go on tomorrow then turn it the right way up to fit the inlet manifold and rocker covers.
neil.
https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/cdn-cgi/...68-jpg.645970/

it's ready to go in now. i just have to decide whether to fit the headers and install it complete or struggle fitting them once it's in. they were an absolute bar steward to get off with the rear bolts/studs being particularly bad. i think.... try it with them fitted and see how we go, at least we can get the gaskets fitted and sealed nicely while it's out. oh, i think i've found why it overheated and did head gaskets in the first place. the silicon hose from the thermostat housing to the back of the water pump had a little split where the coolant could weep out over time when under pressure. it has a new bit of normal hose fitted now.
neil.
https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/cdn-cgi/...69-jpg.645994/

the engine and box are together and hanging on the crane now. the mounts, starter, trans dipstick, cooler with lines and headers are fitted. next is give the 'engine bay' a clean then swing the engine and box into the hole. :thumbs_up_smiley:
neil.