Boot lid catch troubles.

**Paulfk** · 17-01-17, 07:39 PM

When I bought my pop the seller showed me in the boot and then said you have to really slam it to make sure it shuts. He was a retired car salesman so I should have known really.
Today I took a look at it and it seems the lock bolt doesn't catch on the plate that's fixed to the boot opening and it only stayed shut as it was jammed in tight against the recess of the opening. I had to drill out the bolts holding the plate ( can't think if the name of it ) and tried it against the bolt. It seems it's at the wrong angle to catch properly, anyone had similar trouble?

**v8pop** · 18-01-17, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Paulfk

When I bought my pop the seller showed me in the boot and then said you have to really slam it to make sure it shuts. He was a retired car salesman so I should have known really.
Today I took a look at it and it seems the lock bolt doesn't catch on the plate that's fixed to the boot opening and it only stayed shut as it was jammed in tight against the recess of the opening. I had to drill out the bolts holding the plate ( can't think if the name of it ) and tried it against the bolt. It seems it's at the wrong angle to catch properly, anyone had similar trouble?

No mate, but now you have it off it shouldn't be too hard to bend the plate a bit to make it catch.

Cheers. Tim W.

**Paulfk** · 18-01-17, 07:24 PM

Plate is probably not the best description, it's a machined block with a rounded edge to push the lock bolt back on its spring and then should catch behind the rounded piece. It may need a wedge behind the block to get a better angle or bend the boot opening lip. I'm thinking to remove the rear seat and get into the boot with a lamp while someone closes the boot and I can see what's happening.

**jsf55** · 18-01-17, 11:25 PM

Does it have a rubber seal on the lip or in the drainage channel ? sometimes the wrong one is fitted and this causes the boot lid to be pushed off. Mine is similar to yours, but it's a reassuring clunk when it closes

**Happydaze** · 19-01-17, 09:01 AM

a black marker pen might help you 'see' what's going on.

Chris

**Paulfk** · 19-01-17, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by jsf55

Does it have a rubber seal on the lip or in the drainage channel ? sometimes the wrong one is fitted and this causes the boot lid to be pushed off. Mine is similar to yours, but it's a reassuring clunk when it closes

There is a rubber strip around the lip and covered the the fixing screws of the block. It doesn't get pushed away but if I pull gently on the handle to check its closed it just opens easily.

**Paulfk** · 19-01-17, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Happydaze

a black marker pen might help you 'see' what's going on.

Chris

good call Chris, unfortunately work is getting in the way of doing any more and a trip to China end of next week means there is a lot of work to get done before then. Maybe the weekend.

**jsf55** · 21-01-17, 05:00 PM

Is there wear in the catch mechanism rather than the alloy block on the bootlid perimeter ?

**Paulfk** · 22-01-17, 08:40 AM

I had a look at it yesterday and the opening lip just needed prising forward a couple of millimetres to allow the bolt to catch. All working fine now.
the former owner slamming the boot lid probably didn't help much. It doesn't seem too much trouble to turn the handle when closing rather than slamming it but now adjusted and some silicon grease on it, it closes nicely.

**Captain Scarlet** · 22-01-17, 10:33 AM

The original seal is a soft foam square section seal,around 1/2",that is glued to the boot lid,this then compresses as the lid is closed onto the sharp lip facing you around the boot opening.

**Paulfk** · 22-01-17, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Scarlet

The original seal is a soft foam square section seal,around 1/2",that is glued to the boot lid,this then compresses as the lid is closed onto the sharp lip facing you around the boot opening.

the foam is glued to the opening and not the boot lid on mine, have to glue the short section back over the bolts of the lock

**Captain Scarlet** · 23-01-17, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Paulfk

the foam is glued to the opening and not the boot lid on mine, have to glue the short section back over the bolts of the lock

Hi Paul,the seal is not supposed to be on the body,all pops /Anglias were designed and built to have the seal glued to the boot lid,having the seal fitted to the body could be part or all of the reason you are having a problem,especially if the seal is too tough or too big.

**Paulfk** · 23-01-17, 06:01 PM

Where the seal is glued is not the problem, there isn't a problem now that I have adjusted the position of the opening lip. It was probably pushed in by the maniac former owner smashing it to get it to close.when I paint the car I will get all new rubbers etc for the boot, bonnet and doors and fit them in the correct places. For now it's fine. The seal fitted now is quite flat and soft.

**johnnyringo** · 23-01-17, 07:48 PM

Where might I purchase a boot seal? Repairs are progressing nicely. Thanks, Jay

**Brizey** · 24-01-17, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by johnnyringo

Where might I purchase a boot seal? Repairs are progressing nicely. Thanks, Jay

These stock Anglia/Pop boot rubbers, both here in the UK Jay. It`s good to hear your car is on the mend!...

https://www.smallfordspares.co.uk/

http://www.thepopshop.org.uk/Pages/Interior%20page.htm

**johnnyringo** · 27-01-17, 11:33 AM

Thanks for the links. Small Ford Spares lists several sizes. Any idea why or which would be the correct one to order?

**Captain Scarlet** · 27-01-17, 03:02 PM

Hi Jay,I only see two listed both 'SSSc' but different lengths, the short length Is for the four door as has a smaller boot.

i didn't buy mine from there ,that was back in 1979 ,but I could measure the section on my car for you,the seal is nothing special,you may be able to source it over there.

**johnnyringo** · 29-01-17, 10:17 PM

ANS - expanded neoprene sponge strip, self-adhesive
Price from: £0.45 metre (£0.54 inc. VAT)
closed cell sponge with self adhesive backing strip. will only absorb into the cut hollow cell. stock sizes were originally:

3mm x 8mm
3mm x 13mm
3mm x 25mm
6mm x 25mm...

This is what I was referring to. I assumed they are referring to width and thickness

**Captain Scarlet** · 30-01-17, 05:36 PM

The above sizes are too thin Jay,you need around 10mm thick when fixing the seal to the boot lid,maybe less than 10mm if you have a steel boot lid.

I was looking at this listing on the small ford spare site.

https://www.smallfordspares.co.uk/

click on the illustration of the Anglia or the Popular ,then click on 'upholstery and trimmings ' folder.
See 'Boot Seal' i expect it is the correct size and very soft sponge.

Obviously there are other way to seal the boot ,but this is supposed to be the way they were sealed from new,though not too successful around the catch area on the body sometimes .

**johnnyringo** · 31-01-17, 12:34 PM

You've got me on the right track now. I am using the original steel boot lid, although I hinged it to open like a door.

Thanks for the assistance, I do appreciate it. Jay

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