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Cheers all for comments, im just a common bricklayer so all metal work is down to pete and his skills! Here are a few more pics of the rear of roof and remember there is simmler ammounts of work to do on both sides! The car is part roadster at the moment, i will show pics of the front soon. How are you getting on with yours brian?
many years ago Pete did a Mazda rx7 for me which made it in to Custom Car magazine, the bodywork and paint were stunning. His work is second to none.Quote:
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Hi, i will remind him about the mazda tomorow night as im going to visit car. A bit like visiting a sick family member (not that member) in hospital! Although at least its out of intensive care, heres anathor shot of work from the inside
There is only one word............WOW!
That's very very good metal work.
Real craftsmanship, great piece of work
very tidy work. well done
As you can see by early pics in my build thread the front of roof was also very poor. The panel above screen was cut out (which also needed a small repair) to make it easier to get at roof. No they are not worms trying to eat there way into car, just filler! Then it was time for pete to perform more of his magic. Lots of hamering and welding up of little holes has left it looking lke this. Still not finished but looking a lot more like a roof should look. Last pic shows part of roof on floor. I was told not to panic when i went to see car without roof!
There is a lot of good work going into that. Who is doing the metalwork for you please?
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Originally Posted by ford34/2
Hi everyone! i have been messaged by someone about progress on coupe so here is a recent pic. It has taken up so much time I nearly gave up, every panel needed work, the doors were bad and needed extensive work, I must have hundreds of pics of every part of build. However I think we have now turned a corner and at last its looking like a car again with nil rust and nil filler inc lead! ok there is still a way to go. there is almost nothing left that has not been changed, even the roof as it has been unchopped around 20mm,I know that sounds mad but the new screen dident fit so as the roof was off at the time it seemed easier to lift roof a little!. Looking forward to 2017, who knows, maybee we will se it out again!!
Now that's starting to look the part, well done for keeping at it. One more 5 window for the club !!!.
Brings back a lot of memories / sleepless nights seeing your pics. Great metal work going on there, every piece of it a fiddle and a headache LOL.. but will be worth it. Glad to hear that you are persevering with it and resigned to the fact that its not an overnight process.. makes it all the more special when you get out in it again.
Thats looking great ...I really can appreciate how much work it's taken to get it that stage
Mal
End result will be worth all the toilQuote:
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Thanks for the coments, i will post some more pics soon, the front fenders and hood are to be mocked up soon so that should make a good pic! thanks Pete for all your hard work!
sounds like its been,a hell of a job.but you,ve seen it through.keep at it.
Done a fine job, i saw what you had to deal with under the paint good effort i have to say
Many thanks go to you and Richard for your help!Quote:
Originally Posted by randrhotrodimports
anytime mate pleased we helped bring a fantastic car back
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Originally Posted by 41 ford pu
WOW amazing looking at these pictures the car is going to be the nuts full stop I have a lot of memories of this car being at Daves, me and few others we had great times then and his mother and Father were special people that I will never forget ! this car blew me a away I have some photos some were I will dig them out !
I would love to see a picture of car when Dave brought it over. I did catch him a couple of years ago and he said he might have one somewhere.If any one has one i would love to see it!Quote:
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I had a Tattoo done of this car on my leg many years ago when it was featured in Steet MachineQuote:
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Your leg was featured in Street Machine???...:eek:Quote:
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lol just the thighQuote:
Originally Posted by Brizey
show us then
That was a serious eye opener, it's amazing what hideous bodges are under a bucket load of filler.
Hat's off to you sir for forging ahead and a cracking job being done to put all the wrongs right, doesn't matter who did the work but they shouldn't be allowed to be set loose building a car.
That is looking the business and well worth all the effort thats gone into getting it right.
Looking forward to the next update
Cheers
John
Trial fitting front new sheet metal.Wings and hood are repro, inner fenders and grill are original to car. The front and rear wings all seem to fit well with the Bob Drake running boards, though are not right with the front area and will need some work, esp the off side wing as you can see in picture (sorry about the poor quality of pictures!) also got a couple of the short headlight stands and tried the large commercial head lights on them, they just cleared by 1/4 in. I have a pair of running boards, blasted and primed that come of the car for sale, they have had some repairs but used to look good on car before, it any one would like them let me know.
I’ve followed this thread for a while now and Petes skills as a metal man are unquestionable. However, what has galvanised me to post on here is the feature in the gasser. It has all the pictures, that are in this thread, including the roof damage. There is no explanation to when this happened, but in both this thread and the feature, there is a considerable amount of information of the work carried out by the original owner (in the UK). There is no information on the history of the car after 1996 until 2003 and again from 2005 to 2009. Both this thread and the feature intimate that Dave appears to be responsible for covering up the poor condition of the roof. What needs to be considered is, if he saw all the damage, would he have left it and just put an “inch” of filler in? As the car did not have a headliner in it when it was chopped, all this would have been visible and easy to remedy. The way the roof is rippled, indicates heat. Two possibilities here, one, heat generated in trying to remove the filler by blasting. No, because the damage was already there, that’s what the filler was covering up. Second possibility, the results of “the fire” was an issue and as a quick way of repair, the roof was pulled using a screw in slide hammer (hence the worms!!). Certainly he would have not been able to fit the filler strip, above the “B” post with the roof like that, without carrying out some remedial work.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzie
Some photos have surfaced, from the dim and distant past, of Dave in the process of chopping the roof. Remember these are over 30 years old and taken with box brownie, so the quality isn’t all it could be. But it is enough to be able to see that the damage was not there at the time the roof was chopped.
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Glad you've found those old photos. Didn't like how it was coming across either. The lad don't look as wild there LOL Must be all the tea Dave sups these day's.
there looks to be a fair bit/thickness of filler either side of the strip being welded in on the second pic. that would indicate previous work.
Bit of an optical illusion. When you sand out to get to metal below, it's not a straight cut through to the metal, but a slope which gives the illusion of a thick coat of filler, but certainly not an "inch" thick.
From the internal shot, it is pretty evident that the roof wasn't damaged at the time. I don't see how the work could've been carried out if the roof was in such a poor state.
As Jazz said, there are some extremely wide gaps in the history of the '34 one of which included a bit of a bonfire. On that note I recall seeing photos of my old man's MK3 2000E which was burnt, it looked very similar to the photographs posted.
W
I'd imagine the inch thick would be in the lows of the ripples to bring the panel up to the highs. Unheard of to put that much on a level surface.
irrespective of who or how the filler got into the roof I have seen this car in Pete's workshop and they are not exaggerating, the roof was simply horrid I have never seen anything so bad. Pete however is an artist with his metal working skills and the panel work is now excellent.
Hi all, just seen posts and thought i had better get involved! firstly I do not want to upset in anyway the original builder! I am very lucky in having, Bob Drake, Howells sheet metal and countless other dealers round the world who with the help of R&R get me the parts I need, and 30 odd years ago I think the original builder did a good job with the tools and parts he had! We have spoken a couple of times and he has sat in the car under my ownership. The history of the car is not sketchy at all! I know where the car has been and all owners prior to me, indeed I speak with some of them at times. I was asked by N Nick if he could write a piece for the Gasser mag and I said it would be ok as its fun to see whats going on in Rodders garages. He wrote the article using pics from the thread here. The car has never been involved in a fire and there is no damage by fire to the car. The second owner had a fire at his house but the car was not directly involved.I love the three pics that have been posted, they are the first pics I have seen of car being built by original builder. The middle picture showing car being worked on made me smile as I have that part of the car cut out and hanging in my garage! I also have or Pete the builder of car now has all the original metal that was cut out of car. when the car was blasted they left lumps of filler 0n car so I could see how deep filler was, I have those parts as well and it is an inch thick in some areas. When car was blasted I have to say the damage did not look half so bad from the inside(lots of pics of the inside as well)Peter is doing a fantastic job of car and after many years (I have had car for around 7 yrs) its looking like an end is in sight! I love the car and did so the first time I saw it at Garys picnic in around 82. When car is finished the original builder will be welcome to take it for a spin! and I will welcome his opinion. One of his mates has been to Petes and has seen car and has liked what he saw. On a lighter note, im going to see car tomorrow to sort seat position, steering etc. P.S thanks Jimmy the pump!
You're absolutely right in what you say, but when you say "irrespective of who or how the filler got into the roof" it is the intimation that Dave was responsible, both in this thread and the feature. There were at least 4 custodians of this car after Dave, but nothing is mentioned about them.Quote:
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Some amazing metal work gone in to this, will be great to see this cool old car out again.
Don't think you'll do that, he lives or lived in Washington State, hope he's still around!!Quote:
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Perhaps you mean Dave, he does have name!!
Bit condescending, don't you think?Quote:
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Cool thing to do, but neither of you thought to have the courtesy to call Dave and ask him if it was ok to include him, but funnily enough not to include any of the other owners through the years?Quote:
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Regardless of who did what and who built it it must have looked good enough when 'full' of plod to have parted 'you' from your money ? I always fail to understand why everyone expects new panels and lead loading from a bloke in a shed working on his hot rod ? Then factor in what they paid for it compared to an actual new panels and lead loaded motor ?? Most of us are mere amateurs 'having a go' and don't have access to wheeling machines or the money to pay someone to do it for us . Maybe that's why rat rods are so popular now most have given up even trying .
PS Don't know Dave Haskell either so purely an impartial observer.
I've built a few cars over the years and always did the best I could with money, tools and skills available at that time. How would the cars I built in the seventies and eighties compare with my latest car, not well, but I would never get hung up on it it's just the way things are and how else are hobby builders going to learn there skills. I'm sure there are plenty pro builders out there that have built cars in there distant past that they would never accept at their current skill level
As you can see with the rear of car looking finished, the line of the trunk did not meet the line of rear panel, so peter altered the rear panel to make a neat flowing line, he also made up the bottoms of the rear 3/4 and they are ready (almost) to weld in. Sorry about sideways pics!
Some more metalwork pics! the front fenders/grille/hood etc did not work at all so pete has made some mods to inner fenders!
Proper job :thumbs_up_smiley:
Some really neat fabrication, very nicely done.
Aye as said very neat fab work.
Cheers. Tim W.
I took my camera for a change when i visited Ian’s coupe this week. It sure gets better and better every time i see it. Pete’s doing a great job getting it all straightened out !
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If I had have known you were going to post some picturs I would have brushed my hair!
Yeah! Combe your hair you untidy oik ............ I bet you can't stop smiling now your Ford looks like a car again and not a jig saw puzzle.
whats the plan regarding colour, same as before or something different? I think Pete's got a few gallons of 'calor gas bottle' orange from the truck he painted recently :lol::lol:
Ian, I think it needs a few more louvres mate, other than that looks great. Very well done for sticking at it.
Ha ha... that's the least of your worries ! [:D]Quote:
Originally Posted by 41 ford pu
Was thinking of having a second roof insert made with louvers but where does it end and i think its prob getting harder to find mk 1 Astra bonnets!
And as for colour, deffo not orange, some might think it will look a little plain the colour I have chosen but I want to sneak into a few classic car shows etc for fun! you will have to wait and see!
Hi all, a lot has been going on over the last few months so I will try to catch up with a few pictures! Pete has been very busy as you will see. Here is a shot with the fuel tank, made smaller and remounted so you can get your feet under it if your riding in the rumble seat! Many thanks to FH Ellis for modifying the tank they made many years ago before I owned car.
The internal wood structure has been removed and car has now been reinforced with steel panels around the windows/doors, trunk area. also the door pillers have been strengthend with steel.
Wow! That tin work is brilliant it'll be a shame to cover it over, I must pop in and see it again for myself
Im going to use it for one season with no interior other than a temp seat so work can bee seen! And yes pop down, as you know, Peter is always there.
I know it's 'how Long is a piece of string' but any idea or thoughts on when Pete might be finished with it?
He tells me that I will be driving car to supernats this year!!! Cant wait
I'd hate to be picking up the bill for all those hours !
Steering now sorted and connected, Pop Brown Coloum/drop and floor mount with an engine optics steering wheel. Handbrake fitted, tunnel sorted with loker shifter fitted. Pete has also made an adjustable seat base. Brake and throttle pedals sorted.
Its my dream!!! dont smoke or drink (much) the car is my weakness lolQuote:
Originally Posted by kapri
And its becoming a reality love this car cant wait to see it in the flesh mate
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Originally Posted by 41 ford pu
I just looked through this build thread , and I must say ! There is some fantastic craftsmanship gone into this project,
keep up up the great work , :thumbs_up_smiley:
Aye, times 2 matey.Quote:
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Cheers. Tim W.
Looking fabulous! One to certainly look out for.
So what is capacity of the 'smaller' fuel tank then? It looks pretty darn voluminous (££££££££'s) to me!
Chris
Think its 25 gals now, it was massive, no idea why, perhaps car was running a little rich lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happydaze
Many thanks have to go to you and Richard for your help with transporting parts!Quote:
Originally Posted by randrhotrodimports
Thought you may like to see a painting Chris Foggett did of car a few years ago before it got blown apart!
The workmanship that’s gone into your build is without doubt some of the finest. Seems almost a shame to put paint on it .
Very nicely done
Cheers
John
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Thanks John, All the credit goes to Pete, although I have worked on my cars in the past inc painting my old MK 1 Zodiac, Im best left bricklaying and let pete whos skills speak for themselfs carry out the work. Pete will be painting car as well
Mk 1 Zodiac, thing of beauty, has to be asked , two tone paint ?
Cheers
John
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Yep I'm with you on that I'm no master craftsman at sheet metal but if you need to know anything about Building a house then I'm in lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 41 ford pu
I painted it bright red and with the help of my dad we put a rover V8 in it. louvred bonnet.A sod to stop as i done nothing with the brakes and the half shafts kept snapping as I had the standard rear end in it. Would love to know if it still exists, I think it went to Scotland, reg PGN899Quote:
Originally Posted by yjohnb
Sounds like it was one very nice Zodiac. Well checked the DVLA website and registration still shows as a Ford with 3500 engine and red, last tax due in 1997 , May be tucked away in a lock up hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by 41 ford pu
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
John
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Door locks/ catches have all been apart and sorted by pet and now work well. Looks like I have two types of locks, looked it up and it seems they did two types of locks in 1934, early/late type.
This is going to have a far better fit and finish than it left the factory with eighty-odd years ago! I'm sure it was at one of my first Gary's Picnic full weekends in the early '80s, three of us had gone in a mate's Pop, and when DH pulled up in the Coupe we all just stopped and gawped.
If you weren't already aware, originally the driver's door would only have been lockable via a small lever inside the car, and the key lock would have been on the passenger door only.
great car cant wait to see it again
Hiya,thats where I first saw car parked next to Terry Carpenters(I think) red 40 coupeQuote:
Originally Posted by rem
and yes we just found out about the lock!